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Tao of Color Grading’s first package of training videos has been roadmapped.
Or more precisely, MindMapped:

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Euphonix MC Color control surface

As mapped, this will be a 5-video series, each video denoted by the gray diamonds. The first of the videos, “Overview”, will be available for free to everyone who subscribes to our newsletter (hint, hint).

I haven’t set pricing yet – but the full set will probably run in the $50 – $70 range.

I’m going to start recording these training videos starting this weekend. I want to make sure I don’t miss anything important, Sooo…

The Offer

NOTE: This offer has ended. We are definitely still interested in hearing your thoughts about our upcoming training, so feel free to leave a comment.

Here’s the deal: By midnight Eastern July 2, 2010 – leave relevant feedback in the comments or on the forum thread for this post and you’ll get the entire training series, as a gift.

Gratis. As in, free.

Consider it a TaoOfColor.com Grand Opening bottle of wine from me, to you – someone who actually cares about this kind of gear.

The catch? I just need to be able to contact you when the training goes live, so I suggest an email address that works. 🙂

And spammy or “me too” posts are a no-no. Leave me your thoughts in your words, no matter if someone has said it before. It’ll help me prioritize the requests.

The Question You Need To Answer

  • Current Euphonix Users: What topics do I seem to be missing or you would most like explored?
  • Everyone else: What do you most want answered when it comes to understanding if a control surface is for you?
  • I’ll say it again: Anyone who responds, in their own voice, gets the entire series for free! (evil spammers are excluded from this offer)

    I’m sure you’re wondering, how much will the full series cost when it’s done? Somewhere in the $50 – $70 range sounds about right to me.

    Remember: The cutoff is midnight, Friday July 2, New York City time. The timestamp in the forum is the ultimate arbiter of who made it in under the gun!

    Thanks!

    Patrick, Tao Colorist

Disclosure: Patrick is currently offering a Live Color Grading Seminar in conjunction with Euphonix. They have loaned him an MC Color control surface so he can do better demos. But he wouldn’t do it if he didn’t think the MC Color is a great product.

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86 Comments

  1. jimoore July 1, 2010 at 4:16 AM #

    I would like to learn more about Color and have I can use it for my personal projects.

    • Lisa July 1, 2010 at 9:48 AM #

      In your overview could you possibly mention which color software packages work with either the Euphonix or one of the other available control surfaces? That would be very helpful. I’ve often missed the operational setup or “control surface” I had when I was a color photo printer.

      • Patrick Inhofer July 1, 2010 at 3:05 PM #

        Lisa,

        You bet. It’s been added to the Mind Map.

        FYI, so far the Tangent Wave, Euphonix MC Color, and JL Cooper Eclipse are targeted primarily to Apple’s Color. The Wave will also work with the upcoming DaVinci Resolve on Mac – with MC Color and Eclipse expected to follow on.

        In the Overview I’ll also add a little more detail on how / if these surfaces can be used with other apps.

        Thanks for the feedback!

        – pi

      • Patrick Inhofer July 2, 2010 at 12:31 AM #

        I’ll be covering all those aspects.

        I’ll definitely add my impression of the build quality (which is solid, IMO, though I’d prefer that the encoder knobs have more tactile feedback).

        It won’t be in this training series per se, but I’ll see if I can get an interview from someone at Avid / Euphonix to see if they can talk about their plans to integrate the Euphonix video surfaces into Media Composer and Symphony. If I can make it happen it’ll show up here on the Tao of Color blog and the Tao Colorist newsletter.

        Thanks for posting your thoughts!

        – pi

        • Matt Feury July 2, 2010 at 12:50 AM #

          Integrating Euphonix video surfaces into Media Composer and Symphony? Working on it right now. Stay tuned.
          Good luck with the training! I can’t wait to watch the videos. I just started messing around with MC Color and Color. Very cool. Any chance you’ll be covering MC Color and REDCine-X some time in the future?

      • Patrick Inhofer July 2, 2010 at 12:35 AM #

        I’ll be covering all those aspects.

        I’ll definitely add my impression of the build quality (which is solid, IMO, though I’d prefer that the encoder knobs have more tactile feedback).

        It won’t be in this training series per se, but I’ll see if I can get an interview from someone at Avid / Euphonix to see if they can talk about their plans to integrate the Euphonix video surfaces into Media Composer and Symphony (or if they even plan on doing so). If I can make it happen it’ll show up here on the Tao of Color blog and the Tao Colorist newsletter.

        Thanks for posting your thoughts!

        – pi

      • Patrick Inhofer July 2, 2010 at 2:36 PM #

        Hi,

        We had an Avid rep leave a comment last night. You can read it on the forum (it’s not showing up in the comment thread). Unfortunately, I had the forums misconfigured last night and it doesn’t show what he said, so I’ll quote here:

        “Integrating Euphonix video surfaces into Media Composer and Symphony? Working on it right now. Stay tuned.”

        Thanks for your feedback!

        – pi

      • Patrick Inhofer July 2, 2010 at 8:02 PM #

        Peter,

        Thanks for the good wishes! I’ve been told I’m crazy doing this. We’ll see! 😉

        All of your issues are exactly why I’m doing this training. I’ll see if I can get to those compelling reasons – it’ll be along the lines of: Speed. Speed. Impressive looking.

        One of the requirements of my training for all these control surfaces: Showing simultaneous video of the hands-on-surface with the screen capture of the software interface. I think that’s essential.

        Thanks for spreading the word. It’s a really nice post. And I’ve always enjoyed your blog as well.

      • Patrick Inhofer July 3, 2010 at 1:27 AM #

        Larry,

        Great thoughts, all.

        I believe the MC Control – in Color – really makes the MC Color shine. It allows us to move a slew of useful commands off the keyboard or from shifted positions on the colorist surface. I’ll be going into this big-time with reasoning and some suggested layouts.

        RE: Generalist vs Specialist – I see both sides. Being a generalist allows you to take on a much wider range of jobs. It also means you’ll have a wider range of competition so you’ve got to really *know* your gear enough to stand out in a crowd. Being a specialist reduces the competition, potentially allowing you to raise your rates… unless your specialty dies out.

        Thanks for leaving feedback!

        – pi

      • Patrick Inhofer July 3, 2010 at 1:34 AM #

        Larry,

        Thanks for starting the drinks flowing around here! I’ll hold off on my drink until the first of the modules ship.

        Here’s a toast to the MC Color video training exceeding our expectations…

        – pi

    • Patrick Inhofer July 1, 2010 at 3:01 PM #

      Jim,

      In developing my Live Seminar Series I was surprised how often I heard a variation of your question come up: When do I need to work in Color? When should I stay in FCP?

      Yours is a good related question. Thanks for asking.

      I’ve got training the in the works for you!

      In the meantime, Lynda.com has some good interface training on Color at a reasonable price… they teach the interface, the buttons, etc. Class On Demand has a great 2 DVD series that was just released (which I’m reviewing) that I also recommend.

      TaoOfColor.com will pick up where those leave off – we’ll focus on the Why? and What Now?

      Stay tuned. And if you didn’t already, subscribe to the Newsletter to hear when these offering will be coming out.

      – pi

  2. jimoore July 1, 2010 at 12:16 AM #

    I would like to learn more about Color and have I can use it for my personal projects.

    • Patrick Inhofer July 1, 2010 at 11:01 AM #

      Jim,

      In developing my Live Seminar Series I was surprised how often I heard a variation of your question come up: When do I need to work in Color? When should I stay in FCP?

      Yours is a good related question. Thanks for asking.

      I’ve got training the in the works for you!

      In the meantime, Lynda.com has some good interface training on Color at a reasonable price… they teach the interface, the buttons, etc. Class On Demand has a great 2 DVD series that was just released (which I’m reviewing) that I also recommend.

      TaoOfColor.com will pick up where those leave off – we’ll focus on the Why? and What Now?

      Stay tuned. And if you didn’t already, subscribe to the Newsletter to hear when these offering will be coming out.

      – pi

  3. Lisa July 1, 2010 at 5:48 AM #

    In your overview could you possibly mention which color software packages work with either the Euphonix or one of the other available control surfaces? That would be very helpful. I’ve often missed the operational setup or “control surface” I had when I was a color photo printer.

    • Patrick Inhofer July 1, 2010 at 11:05 AM #

      Lisa,

      You bet. It’s been added to the Mind Map.

      FYI, so far the Tangent Wave, Euphonix MC Color, and JL Cooper Eclipse are targeted primarily to Apple’s Color. The Wave will also work with the upcoming DaVinci Resolve on Mac – with MC Color and Eclipse expected to follow on.

      In the Overview I’ll also add a little more detail on how / if these surfaces can be used with other apps.

      Thanks for the feedback!

      – pi

    • Patrick Inhofer July 1, 2010 at 8:31 PM #

      I’ll be covering all those aspects.

      I’ll definitely add my impression of the build quality (which is solid, IMO, though I’d prefer that the encoder knobs have more tactile feedback).

      It won’t be in this training series per se, but I’ll see if I can get an interview from someone at Avid / Euphonix to see if they can talk about their plans to integrate the Euphonix video surfaces into Media Composer and Symphony. If I can make it happen it’ll show up here on the Tao of Color blog and the Tao Colorist newsletter.

      Thanks for posting your thoughts!

      – pi

      • Matt Feury July 1, 2010 at 8:50 PM #

        Integrating Euphonix video surfaces into Media Composer and Symphony? Working on it right now. Stay tuned.
        Good luck with the training! I can’t wait to watch the videos. I just started messing around with MC Color and Color. Very cool. Any chance you’ll be covering MC Color and REDCine-X some time in the future?

        • tmac July 1, 2010 at 11:52 PM #

          I’m curious to see how this will fit into an Avid post production workflow. As well, I’m curious to see if this will be useful to my current workflow using Color.

          Cheers mate.
          tmac

          • Patrick Inhofer July 2, 2010 at 10:21 AM #

            Hi TMac,

            Thanks for leaving a response. We’ll have to wait on Avid to find out how the integration will work on that side. I’ll definitely have you covered on the Color side.

            – pi

    • Patrick Inhofer July 1, 2010 at 8:35 PM #

      I’ll be covering all those aspects.

      I’ll definitely add my impression of the build quality (which is solid, IMO, though I’d prefer that the encoder knobs have more tactile feedback).

      It won’t be in this training series per se, but I’ll see if I can get an interview from someone at Avid / Euphonix to see if they can talk about their plans to integrate the Euphonix video surfaces into Media Composer and Symphony (or if they even plan on doing so). If I can make it happen it’ll show up here on the Tao of Color blog and the Tao Colorist newsletter.

      Thanks for posting your thoughts!

      – pi

    • Patrick Inhofer July 2, 2010 at 10:36 AM #

      Hi,

      We had an Avid rep leave a comment last night. You can read it on the forum (it’s not showing up in the comment thread). Unfortunately, I had the forums misconfigured last night and it doesn’t show what he said, so I’ll quote here:

      “Integrating Euphonix video surfaces into Media Composer and Symphony? Working on it right now. Stay tuned.”

      Thanks for your feedback!

      – pi

    • Patrick Inhofer July 2, 2010 at 4:02 PM #

      Peter,

      Thanks for the good wishes! I’ve been told I’m crazy doing this. We’ll see! 😉

      All of your issues are exactly why I’m doing this training. I’ll see if I can get to those compelling reasons – it’ll be along the lines of: Speed. Speed. Impressive looking.

      One of the requirements of my training for all these control surfaces: Showing simultaneous video of the hands-on-surface with the screen capture of the software interface. I think that’s essential.

      Thanks for spreading the word. It’s a really nice post. And I’ve always enjoyed your blog as well.

    • Patrick Inhofer July 2, 2010 at 9:27 PM #

      Larry,

      Great thoughts, all.

      I believe the MC Control – in Color – really makes the MC Color shine. It allows us to move a slew of useful commands off the keyboard or from shifted positions on the colorist surface. I’ll be going into this big-time with reasoning and some suggested layouts.

      RE: Generalist vs Specialist – I see both sides. Being a generalist allows you to take on a much wider range of jobs. It also means you’ll have a wider range of competition so you’ve got to really *know* your gear enough to stand out in a crowd. Being a specialist reduces the competition, potentially allowing you to raise your rates… unless your specialty dies out.

      Thanks for leaving feedback!

      – pi

    • Patrick Inhofer July 2, 2010 at 9:34 PM #

      Larry,

      Thanks for starting the drinks flowing around here! I’ll hold off on my drink until the first of the modules ship.

      Here’s a toast to the MC Color video training exceeding our expectations…

      – pi

  4. Timothy Ziegler July 1, 2010 at 10:50 AM #

    As someone who has used Color for a couple years now, I just recently started using a surface–the Tangent Wave. I’m quickly adapting to make grading with the device infinitely faster, particularly in the Primary Room. For Secondaries, however, I find myself still mousing quite a bit–especially when keying. Are there any techniques for staying “on-board” with the surface and getting a precise key quickly?

    Also, before switching to the Wave, I had been using the “Advanced Tab” for my color balance. Although, this takes considerably longer than using the hue wheels with the Wave, I still found it more intuitive and more accurate (though, to be fair, I’m still adjusting). I think it may be interesting to talk about the differences in using hue wheels vs. the numeric RGB tab: how they handle the relationship between luminance and chroma. I really enjoyed your post on the differences between the Color wheels in Color vs. FCP–it was always something I could “feel,” but knowing the properties and limitations of each gives an educated and logical approach to grading in those respective programs.

    • Patrick Inhofer July 1, 2010 at 11:13 AM #

      Hi Tim!

      Right. Tangent Wave. My roadmap is to come out with training for all 3 main control surfaces for use in the Apple ecosystem. I’d like to do the Wave after I wrap the Euphonix training next month. It’ll be a case of me contacting the Tangent folks and getting in a demo unit for a couple weeks to A) get comfortable on the device and then B) record the training.

      The key to staying “on-board” is customization. I’ve added that to the MindMap for all three training series.

      And to folks who haven’t read it – the article that Timothy referred to can be found off my sometimes-updated blog at Fini.tv or over at Ken Stone’s excellent FCP site.

  5. Patrick Inhofer July 1, 2010 at 3:13 PM #

    Hi Tim!

    Right. Tangent Wave. My roadmap is to come out with training for all 3 main control surfaces for use in the Apple ecosystem. I’d like to do the Wave after I wrap the Euphonix training next month. It’ll be a case of me contacting the Tangent folks and getting in a demo unit for a couple weeks to A) get comfortable on the device and then B) record the training.

    The key to staying “on-board” is customization. I’ve added that to the MindMap for all three training series.

    And to folks who haven’t read it – the article that Timothy referred to can be found off my sometimes-updated blog at Fini.tv or over at Ken Stone’s excellent FCP site.

  6. Josh J Hudson July 1, 2010 at 2:32 PM #

    I would like to know how Avid will integrate this control surface into their lineup. I use Color and AVID controls and would like to see how they may be used on the MC Color

  7. Andrea Maio July 1, 2010 at 6:37 PM #

    Hi, i’m a Magix Sequoia user on Windows. It support EuCon protocol and video, but unfortunatly i didn’t try Euphonix control surface yet. So for me could be usefull to know if is there some problem to interface Euphonics MC Color with Sequoia. In this case i could think to got it. Thanks

    • Patrick Inhofer July 1, 2010 at 7:10 PM #

      Hi Andrea,

      I doubt the panel we’re talking about here, MC Color, will work with Magix Sequoia. I’ll see if I can get someone from Euphonix on this board and answer your question about their audio products working with Sequoia.

      Thanks for your feedback!

      – pi

    • Patrick Inhofer July 2, 2010 at 12:33 AM #

      Andrea,

      I just heard back from my contact… Euphonix doesn’t have any PC drivers. Only Mac.

      – pi

      • Andrea Maio July 2, 2010 at 11:16 AM #

        Thanks a lot for you interesting in my question.

        Have a nice day Patrick!

        AM

  8. Andrea Maio July 1, 2010 at 2:37 PM #

    Hi, i’m a Magix Sequoia user on Windows. It support EuCon protocol and video, but unfortunatly i didn’t try Euphonix control surface yet. So for me could be usefull to know if is there some problem to interface Euphonics MC Color with Sequoia. In this case i could think to got it. Thanks

    • Marcus Dawson July 1, 2010 at 2:59 PM #

      Having used the primary and secondary grading tools on Symphony and Media composer for a couple of years now it would be interesting to see how these tactile surfaces will aid the workflow. Never having used a Pogle it looks similar to the control panel of that. I look forward to the progressing of this device and software.

      Marcus

      • Patrick Inhofer July 1, 2010 at 3:18 PM #

        Marcus,

        Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

        Yup, one of the things I hope this video series will show is exactly what the benefit of a control surface is and if it’s appropriate for your workflow.

        BTW, when I first moved to a control surface 2 years ago (JL Cooper Eclipse), I posted a diary of my experience moving from a mouse to a surface. You can find it here.

        • Stephen S. July 1, 2010 at 3:19 PM #

          For me, the biggest question is consistency across applications. Right now, I’m doing grading work in REDCINE-X and Color, with hopes of adding DaVinci to that list down the road. I know the Tangent Wave supports all three, and I expect the Euphonix will as well, in due time.

          What interests me the most is, will I have a consistent experience across all applications if I’m using a control surface? Sometimes it can be hard to jump between applications, and work efficiently with the changing user interfaces. So, I’d love to know what stays the same, and what changes, when using the control surface in different applications.

          • Patrick Inhofer July 1, 2010 at 4:40 PM #

            Stephen,

            For the most part these control surfaces are pretty much land-locked to Color. It’ll be interesting to see what happens when Resolve ships and how Wave works between the two apps.

            Stay tuned and thanks for playing. You’re a winner! All of you…

            – pi

          • Josh Petok July 1, 2010 at 6:07 PM #

            I primarily color with Avid Symphony and spend most of my time in the curves tool. When you’re manipulating curves in Apple Color, do you use the Euphonix “mouse mode”? Because you’re using a surface, do you find that you’re not using curves at all? In your opinion, is there any benefit to having a Wacom tablet along with a small control surface?

          • Patrick Inhofer July 1, 2010 at 8:21 PM #

            Hi Josh,

            I’ve only recently started to try and get used to the ‘mouse mode’ (thanks for mentioning it… I’m putting it on the MindMap). It’s a little strange and my mouse (actually a 4-button trackball) is so 2nd nature that the two handed function of the ‘mouse mode’ is definitely an acquired habit. I haven’t concluded that it sucks, but I haven’t concluded that I like it either.

            Do I think my tools influence my behavior? Yes. Working on a surface definitely pushes me to not want to rely too heavily on the mouse-driven curves interface.

            Colorists I know using Color who have a surface but have come to rely on Curves tend to stay on the mouse even for things where a surface will excel – like manipulating masks in Color’s secondaries.

            Then there’s the Wacom crowd! Those guys will be buried with their pens… 😉

            Using a Wacom tablet with the surface? It could work once you get used to it, I’d think. All of these are acquired behaviors so it’s up to the colorist to decide how they can work quickest and then commit to becoming proficient with their toolset.

            HTH, and welcome aboard the Tao Of Color train!

            – pi

    • Patrick Inhofer July 1, 2010 at 3:10 PM #

      Hi Andrea,

      I doubt the panel we’re talking about here, MC Color, will work with Magix Sequoia. I’ll see if I can get someone from Euphonix on this board and answer your question about their audio products working with Sequoia.

      Thanks for your feedback!

      – pi

    • Patrick Inhofer July 1, 2010 at 8:33 PM #

      Andrea,

      I just heard back from my contact… Euphonix doesn’t have any PC drivers. Only Mac.

      – pi

      • Andrea Maio July 2, 2010 at 7:16 AM #

        Thanks a lot for you interesting in my question.

        Have a nice day Patrick!

        AM

  9. Patrick Inhofer July 1, 2010 at 7:07 PM #

    Josh,

    I have no inside info to share. I think everyone is curious about Avid’s plans for Euphonix and specifically the MC Color panel.

    You can be sure, one of my missions is to stay on top of this kind of info – and share it.

    In the meantime, I hope you enjoy the MC Color training as it comes out over the next few weeks!

    Looking at the Euphonix’s <a href="http://euphonix.com/artist/solutions/video.php"Artist Video Series website, it doesn’t look as if they currently integrate with Avid. I’ll get more info. This topic definitely makes the initial “Overview” video.

    Thanks for pointing it out!

    – pi

  10. Patrick Inhofer July 1, 2010 at 7:18 PM #

    Marcus,

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

    Yup, one of the things I hope this video series will show is exactly what the benefit of a control surface is and if it’s appropriate for your workflow.

    BTW, when I first moved to a control surface 2 years ago (JL Cooper Eclipse), I posted a diary of my experience moving from a mouse to a surface. You can find it here.

  11. Pierre Breton July 1, 2010 at 3:51 PM #

    Wow! Your offer couldn’t come at a better time. I have a MC Color on order and it should be in soon. So of course the entire set of video training would be very welcome to get a good start. And since it is now owned by Avid, would it be integrated in Media Composer in the future?

    Thanks for the free lesson.

    • Patrick Inhofer July 1, 2010 at 4:45 PM #

      Congrats on your panel! I’m working feverishly to kick this training out the door. And running this promo is the best idea I’ve had since deciding to start this training site in the first place!

      RE: Avid & Euphonix – No word has been given (that I’m aware of) about Euphonix panels and Avid integration. I know I’m all for it. I come from a linear background and I spent most of my time working with big honking control surfaces. Just because we’ve gone NLE isn’t a reason to stick us with the fingernail of a mouse and ‘call it a day’.

      Control surfaces… love em!

      BTW, you’re not getting just the first lesson free – you’re getting the whole she-bang. All 5 videos (as they are released over the next 6 weeks or so).

      Thanks for posting!

      – pi

  12. Patrick Inhofer July 1, 2010 at 8:40 PM #

    Stephen,

    For the most part these control surfaces are pretty much land-locked to Color. It’ll be interesting to see what happens when Resolve ships and how Wave works between the two apps.

    Stay tuned and thanks for playing. You’re a winner! All of you…

    – pi

  13. Patrick Inhofer July 1, 2010 at 8:45 PM #

    Congrats on your panel! I’m working feverishly to kick this training out the door. And running this promo is the best idea I’ve had since deciding to start this training site in the first place!

    RE: Avid & Euphonix – No word has been given (that I’m aware of) about Euphonix panels and Avid integration. I know I’m all for it. I come from a linear background and I spent most of my time working with big honking control surfaces. Just because we’ve gone NLE isn’t a reason to stick us with the fingernail of a mouse and ‘call it a day’.

    Control surfaces… love em!

    BTW, you’re not getting just the first lesson free – you’re getting the whole she-bang. All 5 videos (as they are released over the next 6 weeks or so).

    Thanks for posting!

    – pi

  14. Josh Petok July 1, 2010 at 10:07 PM #

    I primarily color with Avid Symphony and spend most of my time in the curves tool. When you’re manipulating curves in Apple Color, do you use the Euphonix “mouse mode”? Because you’re using a surface, do you find that you’re not using curves at all? In your opinion, is there any benefit to having a Wacom tablet along with a small control surface?

    • Patrick Inhofer July 2, 2010 at 12:21 AM #

      Hi Josh,

      I’ve only recently started to try and get used to the ‘mouse mode’ (thanks for mentioning it… I’m putting it on the MindMap). It’s a little strange and my mouse (actually a 4-button trackball) is so 2nd nature that the two handed function of the ‘mouse mode’ is definitely an acquired habit. I haven’t concluded that it sucks, but I haven’t concluded that I like it either.

      Do I think my tools influence my behavior? Yes. Working on a surface definitely pushes me to not want to rely too heavily on the mouse-driven curves interface.

      Colorists I know using Color who have a surface but have come to rely on Curves tend to stay on the mouse even for things where a surface will excel – like manipulating masks in Color’s secondaries.

      Then there’s the Wacom crowd! Those guys will be buried with their pens… 😉

      Using a Wacom tablet with the surface? It could work once you get used to it, I’d think. All of these are acquired behaviors so it’s up to the colorist to decide how they can work quickest and then commit to becoming proficient with their toolset.

      HTH, and welcome aboard the Tao Of Color train!

      – pi

  15. Darick T July 1, 2010 at 10:54 PM #

    how will Avid integrate this control surface into their lineup. I use both Color and AVID controls and would like to see how they may be used on the MC Color….im glad avid sent me here 🙂

    • Patrick Inhofer July 2, 2010 at 12:25 AM #

      Darick,

      I’m thrilled you’re here!

      Enjoy the upcoming training. I can see I’m going to have to make sure all the Avid folk are taken care of here on the Tao…

      – pi

  16. Darick T July 1, 2010 at 6:54 PM #

    how will Avid integrate this control surface into their lineup. I use both Color and AVID controls and would like to see how they may be used on the MC Color….im glad avid sent me here 🙂

    • Patrick Inhofer July 1, 2010 at 8:25 PM #

      Darick,

      I’m thrilled you’re here!

      Enjoy the upcoming training. I can see I’m going to have to make sure all the Avid folk are taken care of here on the Tao…

      – pi

  17. Mark Collins July 1, 2010 at 11:02 PM #

    While I’ve done basic coloring on Avid Media composer, I’d like to move up into knowing more about it, and
    perhaps using a control surface such as this, I’ll get more out of it. I hope to get the Matrox mini box for my home setup to finally be able to do this, and would like to see how the euphonics would fit in with this.

    • Patrick Inhofer July 2, 2010 at 12:26 AM #

      Mark,

      You’re in the right place. I’ll be covering everything from setup to best practices.

      Thanks for posting and I hope you enjoy Tao of Color.

      – pi

  18. Mark Collins July 1, 2010 at 7:02 PM #

    While I’ve done basic coloring on Avid Media composer, I’d like to move up into knowing more about it, and
    perhaps using a control surface such as this, I’ll get more out of it. I hope to get the Matrox mini box for my home setup to finally be able to do this, and would like to see how the euphonics would fit in with this.

    • Patrick Inhofer July 1, 2010 at 8:26 PM #

      Mark,

      You’re in the right place. I’ll be covering everything from setup to best practices.

      Thanks for posting and I hope you enjoy Tao of Color.

      – pi

  19. tmac July 2, 2010 at 3:52 AM #

    I’m curious to see how this will fit into an Avid post production workflow. As well, I’m curious to see if this will be useful to my current workflow using Color.

    Cheers mate.
    tmac

    • Patrick Inhofer July 2, 2010 at 2:21 PM #

      Hi TMac,

      Thanks for leaving a response. We’ll have to wait on Avid to find out how the integration will work on that side. I’ll definitely have you covered on the Color side.

      – pi

  20. Paul Holt July 2, 2010 at 4:34 AM #

    Hi I am making the move into color having just purchased the Curious Turtle training DVD, also looking at Steve Hullfish’s new training DVD…Is there a steep learning curve for this panel and will it diminish time spent in the color application

    • Patrick Inhofer July 2, 2010 at 2:26 PM #

      I’d love to hear what you think of Curious Turtle’s training. Feel free to private message me over in the forums.

      Hullfish’s / Sliga’s new DVD is really good. And you can’t get any two people more qualified than them to talk Color.

      RE: Learning curve with panel – Good question. It’s in the MindMap, thanks! Answer: At the end of one long session you’ll be okay with it. Work with it 2 – 3 days in a row and you’re good to go. Put a few weeks in, and it’s all muscle memory.

      The speed gains on a surface increase the more you work with the surface.

      – pi

  21. Paul Holt July 2, 2010 at 12:34 AM #

    Hi I am making the move into color having just purchased the Curious Turtle training DVD, also looking at Steve Hullfish’s new training DVD…Is there a steep learning curve for this panel and will it diminish time spent in the color application

    • Patrick Inhofer July 2, 2010 at 10:26 AM #

      I’d love to hear what you think of Curious Turtle’s training. Feel free to private message me over in the forums.

      Hullfish’s / Sliga’s new DVD is really good. And you can’t get any two people more qualified than them to talk Color.

      RE: Learning curve with panel – Good question. It’s in the MindMap, thanks! Answer: At the end of one long session you’ll be okay with it. Work with it 2 – 3 days in a row and you’re good to go. Put a few weeks in, and it’s all muscle memory.

      The speed gains on a surface increase the more you work with the surface.

      – pi

  22. John Moore July 2, 2010 at 3:15 AM #

    Having spent a lot of time with Avid Symphony color correction I’ve grown accustomed to adjusting one parameter at a time. I understand that Davinci colorists etc pick up a lot of speed adjusting multiple parameters at the same time. I’d like to know how the mc color compares with the other panels in operator “feel”. Tips on how to rethink the approach to color correction with multiple active track balls and controls would be a big help. Of course any future Avid integration possibilities would be of interest to me. Also from a facilities stand point how this control surface will be received by the traditional colorists coming from a Davinci background would be helpful. Will this panel work with Color Finesse or other grading apps?

  23. cj Adams July 2, 2010 at 10:08 AM #

    I love this control surface! I was one of the earily adoptors.
    One thing I hope you get into is customizing the button assignments.
    One thing that has always bugged me is how the 2ndary room
    control displays are reversed top to bottom. The labels for the tracker wheels are above the
    labels for the rotery encoders. They shoud be swapped. This way it makes more sense.
    I love that you are consentrating on the mc color specificly!
    CJ Adams
    Simplexity Digital Post
    [email protected]

    • Patrick Inhofer July 2, 2010 at 2:31 PM #

      CJ,

      I am a huge customization guy. IMO, that’s where the panels come to shine. We all have different working styles, different tools we like to use – a good panel should maximize our ability to make the changes you describe.

      You bet this will all be covered!

      Thanks!

      – pi

  24. Patrick Inhofer July 2, 2010 at 2:30 PM #

    John,

    All great questions! All now added to the MindMap (which I’m completely revising based on all this feedback).

    If you check out Steve Hullfish’s “Digital Color Correction” book, he interviews a bunch of DaVinci-style Colorists while they work in Color with a JL Cooper. All of them felt comfortable. But considering the high-end panels have dozens of more controls, I’m sure they feel a bit more constricted.

    I don’t have time this AM to get into your other questions, but I’ll cover them in the training. Cub Scout’s honor.

    – pi

  25. allfive July 2, 2010 at 3:42 PM #

    Thanks, Patrick. I use Color and do not use a control surface presently. I eagerly await learning how this will improve my grading accuracy and efficiency.

    BTW, your site design and layout is really well done.

    don

  26. allfive July 2, 2010 at 11:42 AM #

    Thanks, Patrick. I use Color and do not use a control surface presently. I eagerly await learning how this will improve my grading accuracy and efficiency.

    BTW, your site design and layout is really well done.

    don

    • ozonovideo July 2, 2010 at 11:51 AM #

      Hi

      First of all i’m not a euphonics user but soon i will be.

      We have 3 Media composer in our shop, and since euphonics is now Avid, we are very interested in know own the color process is done.

      We really need the begining of everything, to understand the way color behave, and them the practical use of the euphonics hardware.

      The main thing in Time. Yes!!! Since time is money!! So the time we can get in use the hardware and the time we spend if we don’t use it.

      This is the major question for us.

      The rest is simple, how to use it proporly and the way we can link it to the software.

      Thank you
      Nelson Parreira

  27. ozonovideo July 2, 2010 at 3:51 PM #

    Hi

    First of all i’m not a euphonics user but soon i will be.

    We have 3 Media composer in our shop, and since euphonics is now Avid, we are very interested in know own the color process is done.

    We really need the begining of everything, to understand the way color behave, and them the practical use of the euphonics hardware.

    The main thing in Time. Yes!!! Since time is money!! So the time we can get in use the hardware and the time we spend if we don’t use it.

    This is the major question for us.

    The rest is simple, how to use it proporly and the way we can link it to the software.

    Thank you
    Nelson Parreira

  28. pmasters July 3, 2010 at 2:10 AM #

    This is a great idea. I am really excited to learn new ways to master my coloring skills.

  29. pmasters July 2, 2010 at 10:10 PM #

    This is a great idea. I am really excited to learn new ways to master my coloring skills.

    • Patrick Inhofer July 3, 2010 at 1:19 AM #

      This promotion is now over!

      Thanks to everyone who took the time and effort to help me create a great training product. In the near future (once I master and implement the right technology) everyone who commented before Midnight EST on July 2 will get the entire MC Color training set… free.

      I’m thinking of even inviting those peeps to help me work out kinks in the backend of this, the inaugural product launch of TaoOfColor.com.

      What if you didn’t get in on this in time?

      If you want to be sure to be notified of product news, freebies, and behind the scenes stuff – subscribe to our newsletter at the top right of this page.

      If you have some ideas you’d like to see addressed in the training – absolutely leave a comment!

      Feedback. Goooood.

      I look forward to serving you all!

      Sincerely,

      Patrick

  30. Patrick Inhofer July 3, 2010 at 5:19 AM #

    This promotion is now over!

    Thanks to everyone who took the time and effort to help me create a great training product. In the near future (once I master and implement the right technology) everyone who commented before Midnight EST on July 2 will get the entire MC Color training set… free.

    I’m thinking of even inviting those peeps to help me work out kinks in the backend of this, the inaugural product launch of TaoOfColor.com.

    What if you didn’t get in on this in time?

    If you want to be sure to be notified of product news, freebies, and behind the scenes stuff – subscribe to our newsletter at the top right of this page.

    If you have some ideas you’d like to see addressed in the training – absolutely leave a comment!

    Feedback. Goooood.

    I look forward to serving you all!

    Sincerely,

    Patrick

  31. mrdiz July 3, 2010 at 9:56 AM #

    Hope I’m not too late for this! I use the Tangent Wave daily and am thinking about taking the MC Color plunge. Keep up the good work 🙂

  32. mrdiz July 3, 2010 at 5:56 AM #

    Hope I’m not too late for this! I use the Tangent Wave daily and am thinking about taking the MC Color plunge. Keep up the good work 🙂

  33. ronsuss July 8, 2010 at 1:49 AM #

    looking forward to the sharing of ideas

    • Patrick Inhofer July 8, 2010 at 2:22 AM #

      As am I!

      Thanks signing in and leaving a note!

      – patrick

  34. ronsuss July 7, 2010 at 9:49 PM #

    looking forward to the sharing of ideas

    • Patrick Inhofer July 7, 2010 at 10:22 PM #

      As am I!

      Thanks signing in and leaving a note!

      – patrick

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